I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral peopleânot at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindlerânot even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”
My view of sin has become harsher over the past three years. There was a time when I hoped that my presence would teach people to repent. Paul is very clear in this passage. Those who live in blatant sin are not to be toyed with.
This does not mean that the repentant will be turned away. It only means that we do not support sin in any way.
EDIT: Just in case you are wondering, it is very easy to explain why homosexuality is wrong. A basic anatomy lesson demonstrates that some things do not fit together.
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netwiz on
So now that we’ve crossed her off the list…now what? I’m asking because I’m not sure. I feel like I need to have an answer for those who say that we all have areas that we struggle…do I have to disassociate with them too because they’re not following the scripture?
I have bought secular music (let’s be funny for a minute and say that it was merely classical music—not immoral, just not Christian music). Is buying her music now somehow violating this scripture?
I guess I’m most comfortable with saying “what Jennifer Knapp is trying to do is not okay”. I don’t think I’m actually in a position to apply 1 Corinthians 5 to her, but I definitely would be hesitant about supporting her through purchase of her music.
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Chris on
They struggle. Okay. They have not accepted sin and made it a part of their identity (save that they need God’s help). Proverbs 24:16 is a good, concise version [AP]:
For a righteous man will fall seven times, and rise again, but the ungodly shall be without strength in troubles.
I am not one to say that secular is evil. In fact, it is rather faulty to assume that it has to be labeled as “Christian” in order to be wholesome. We buy food that was not always grown by Christian farmers. Anyone who does either lives in a small community (which I support) or they are a part of a cult in a small community.
Paul used words similar to those in I Corinthians several times. Titus 3:10-11 is another passage. This is not saying to avoid them, but to keep them from your confidences.
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netwiz on
Thanks for the thought…that’s a good distinction. It was on the edge of my thought process, but I couldn’t put a finger on it. If fellow believers don’t call someone to listen to their conscience than who shall? I like that wording better also—while I have no problem with the Biblical injunction to “judge” in these cases it comes with a fair amount of historical baggage that can cause people to react without dealing with the substance.
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I expect to pass through this world but once. Any good, therefore, that I can do or any kindness I can show to any fellow creature, let me do it now. Let me not defer or neglect it for I shall not pass this way again.
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Submitted by netwiz on
So now that we’ve crossed her off the list…now what? I’m asking because I’m not sure. I feel like I need to have an answer for those who say that we all have areas that we struggle…do I have to disassociate with them too because they’re not following the scripture?
I have bought secular music (let’s be funny for a minute and say that it was merely classical music—not immoral, just not Christian music). Is buying her music now somehow violating this scripture?
I guess I’m most comfortable with saying “what Jennifer Knapp is trying to do is not okay”. I don’t think I’m actually in a position to apply 1 Corinthians 5 to her, but I definitely would be hesitant about supporting her through purchase of her music.
Submitted by Chris on
They struggle. Okay. They have not accepted sin and made it a part of their identity (save that they need God’s help). Proverbs 24:16 is a good, concise version [AP]:
I am not one to say that secular is evil. In fact, it is rather faulty to assume that it has to be labeled as “Christian” in order to be wholesome. We buy food that was not always grown by Christian farmers. Anyone who does either lives in a small community (which I support) or they are a part of a cult in a small community.
Paul used words similar to those in I Corinthians several times. Titus 3:10-11 is another passage. This is not saying to avoid them, but to keep them from your confidences.
Submitted by netwiz on
Thanks for the thought…that’s a good distinction. It was on the edge of my thought process, but I couldn’t put a finger on it. If fellow believers don’t call someone to listen to their conscience than who shall? I like that wording better also—while I have no problem with the Biblical injunction to “judge” in these cases it comes with a fair amount of historical baggage that can cause people to react without dealing with the substance.